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Poster: kochman Date: Feb 5, 2009 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

I say never another road trip.
They take one or two songs from a show, and then pull the entire SBD from the LMA.
It is all part of Bobby's plan to remove all SBDs without causing a stir...
"What? Its on an official release man..."

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 5, 2009 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

I think you are giving them too much credit for creating such a conspiracy and too much blame on Bob for executing it. However as long as there are sites out there that tell people how to steal the music from here, i can hardly blame them for trying to protect what is rightfully theirs. Please don't come back with the tired Jerry quotes from 30 years ago. They are no longer relevant.

However I agree in part with you. Most of the RT releases have been from 2 shows with some material from a third (I think RT1-1 was from more). My problem has been that the third show has sometimes only been part of the bonus disc. For example 5 or 6 songs from 8-6-71 were only on the bonus disc, none were on the actual release. However even though the bonus disc is no longer available, the newly available sbd and subsequent matrix releases are not available for streaming. I don't think its fair to pull shows that you can't even purchase.

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Feb 6, 2009 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

Don't forget that some of 8-6-71 is on DP35; that, combined with the RT material, is probably the reason they pulled the boards.

The Other One-> Me & My Uncle-> The Other One
Deal
Sugar Magnolia
Morning Dew
Turn on Your Love Light

Are all on Disc 4 of DP35

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 6, 2009 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

Maybe, although the banner says it was the RT. Regardless point taken.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-08-06.sbd.miller.96541.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: kochman Date: Feb 5, 2009 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

Site's such as mine you mean.
As long as there dweebs like you with holier than thou attitudes eating from the "righteous" tree, I am happy to have such a site.

To steal from ducats... all those who criticize such sites...
Blow me.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 5, 2009 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

If your site does that than yes, I guess I was referring to your site. I don't see how you can't see the irony in your complaining about boards being pulled while you are apparently telling people how to steal them. Did you ever consider that you might be part of the reason why they came up with the road trips strategy to get rid of the boards if in fact that is why they are doing those releases?

It's not about being righteous, it's about being respectful. This band gave more to their fans than any in the history of this planet, the least we can do is respect their wishes even if you don't agree with all of them.

As someone who streams about 80% of my listening, I find your actions more disturbing than a few shows getting pulled. You weren't here when all the boards got pulled. It sucked and I would hate to relive it.



This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2009-02-05 23:00:18

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Poster: kochman Date: Feb 5, 2009 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

Some people are known to fill up hard drives for people in B&Ps... I reckon there are at leasts dozens upon dozens of people who do that... I know of several for sure myself. The SBDs will never disappear, even if they pull them here. Don't believe the hype man. You might just have to adjust your listening habits.

And, changing the policy when the breadwinner dies doesn't make me too sympathetic.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 5, 2009 4:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else a fan of DP 6 (10-14-83 Hartford) ?

Oh I understand that. I own plenty of music in part through bt and in part through the generosity of many good folks here. I don't think that's the problem. I don't think the band cares if individuals are trading shows. I also don't think you can predict how Jerry would have responded to one click downloads of shows, mp3s or people leaving notes at the itunes music store that they could go to the archive to get free copies of the Digital Download Series or at dead.net that people should go to speedingarrow to get shows.

I just find streaming shows to be a really convenient way to check out shows I haven't listened to before. However for every person that is trading hard drives, there are probably as many who only stream and would be seriously effected if this place shut down. Trust me, if they changed their policy and freed the boards here, I would download until the cows came home. Well unless they brought Dire with them....